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Heechul: ‘EXO Kris would disappear and didn’t show up to work’

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Super Junior’s Heechul has joined in the heated discussion about Kris’s lawsuit and revealed his thoughts why Kris’s exit was expected.

Heechul referred Kris’s lawsuit to Hangeng’s 2009 legal battle with SM, saying that he ‘might’ve sent signals’ about his intentions on leaving the group.

There were some cases within the group. For example, Kris unexpectedly disappeared from the stage or did not turn up to work when he was supposed to.” Heechul said on JTBC’s ‘Ssul Jeon.’

Kris’s whereabouts is currently unknown, with SM Entertainment confirming yesterday that he wouldn’t be attending EXO’s first solo concert last night.

SM said that his last minute absence has led to difficulties for concert organisers to re-arrange the concert to suit 11 members.

“All of a sudden we only had 11 members for the concert, leaving us with a lot to change, so it has been very difficult for both the members and the staff. But we are doing our best to cope with the situation.”

Heechul compared Hangeng and Kris’s case and said that the two were different.

“This situation is different. In Hangeng’s case, Hangeng was only able to go on two broadcasts. Whether it was because he was the only international member, there were many difficult situations hindering Hangeng’s activities,”

“In the case with Kris’s situation, the problem is neglecting the fans’ trust. With only a week left before the concert, all movements, choreography, and music have turned on their heads.”

His fellow EXO-M members also felt like Kris’s move to file a lawsuit last Thursday was a ‘betrayal of trust’.

“(Kris) should not have done such a thing without telling anyone in advance, especially when the world tour that we have all been dreaming about is just around the corner.” Tao was quoted Tencent Yule. 

Despite Kris’s absence, EXO will continue to hold their first solo concert this weekend in Korea before heading over to Hong Kong for another two shows.

Was EXO Kris planning a solo debut? Why did he file the lawsuit?

 

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31 Comments

  1. thedimplesclub

    June 11, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    It’s his job. He’s a panelist on a talk show that discusses issues in the Korean entertainment industry. Don’t hate on him for doing his job. Even if he’s not an EXO member, he’s essentially a reporter. They gossip for a living. Even if he personally didn’t want to talk about it, it would’ve been unprofessional for him to ignore the question, and bad for the show to overlook it entirely. Heechul didn’t make Kris leave EXO, and he didn’t make the show talk about that issue either. Fans have to realise that not all comments are going to show Kris in a good light, but they’re not wrong either.

  2. thedimplesclub

    June 11, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    While its all good of you to think of their health first and pose SM as the bad guy forcing them to work, please don’t forget that a lot of them choose to keep working. They’d like to have a break no doubt, but they themselves know that they’re still early on in their careers. They’re going good now, but they could still fall from popularity (against all the beliefs of EXO stans). They work that hard and push themselves because they know that if they slack off, there are 10 more boybands waiting to take their place on the charts and waiting to steal their fans. SM might put pressure on them, but its ultimately their choice to work that hard. You might think it noble that Tao, Lay, Kai, you name him, choose to continue performing through sickness and injury; maybe you think that they really care and love each of you personally, but they know that if they disregard fans, they’ll lose them. Please don’t be naive.

  3. thedimplesclub

    June 11, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    It’s his job. That’s what his show is about, that’s what they brought him on for. To present an idol’s point of view on current issues in the entertainment industry. Don’t say things like that because he’s doing his job. He never said hateful things about Kris, he just said Kris was irresponsible, which is true. I love Kris, but I was disappointed by his actions.

  4. thedimplesclub

    June 11, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    Just curious, have you ever organised a concert on the scale of EXO’s? If not, then please don’t make assumptions about how “easy” it is to fill in Kris’ spot. Even if filling his place on stage and his lines in the song are “easy” jobs, fans like you should know that filling Kris’ place in the hearts of Kris-stans is not an easy job at all. Regardless of how much camera time or lines Kris got, the concert has to be changed, new line ups have to be made, choreography has to be rearranged (no matter how minor), lines have to be reassigned, and the members have to cover and explain to the public what’s going on, even if they don’t know themselves, all while rehearsing for a completely new concert in the span of a week. That adds up. It’s not just about the betrayal of trust between friends, its about the extra hours they have to put in, the loss of sleep they have to suffer through, and the stress of not knowing what’s around the corner for them. Heechul is only reporting his opinion on the situation (which a lot of fans agree with). He can’t just skip over the issue, because that’s what his show talks about, issues in the industry. It’s his job, and it would be negligent and arrogant of him to refuse to talk about it. From the point of view of SM as well, as a company, it would’ve cost them time and money to rearrange the concert, not to mention the bad publicity, and the loss in stocks (which amounted to a few billion). It’s their job to worry about these things.

  5. thedimplesclub

    June 11, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    Not all fans completely understand. You might understand, and I might understand, but some fans would’ve been really hurt by the news. Like it or not, Heechul would know the situation better than any of us would, actually being IN the industry and all. It’s just a matter of differing values. Kris would’ve had his reasons for that particular timing, but like it or not, it was cruel of him, if not irresponsible to file the lawsuit right before the concert, knowing that he wouldn’t be performing and he would be letting down a lot of fans, especially international Kris stans who flew in just to see him perform. You don’t know that Kris actually has a health problem. None of that is verified and none of the rumours or photos that were revealed can be trusted. You should know this, because its a medical record. Doctors can’t just give that stuff out. Whether fans like it or not, money would’ve played a part in his decision. He’s got to think of his own future, and if he believed that leaving SM was the best thing for his future, then that’s what he would’ve done. It just seems more real and more of a betrayal if fans believe that he left for monetary reasons, but we shouldn’t be blind. Every story has 2 sides, and while Kris would’ve had his reasons, we can’t just paint SM as the bad guy either, because the other members seem perfectly content with the company (if they weren’t they’d be filing lawsuits too).

  6. thedimplesclub

    June 11, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    The ‘Overdose’ choreo actually really needs Kris, because of the way that the intro formation is filmed, and the whole dance is choreographed for 6 members. For choreography like ‘Wolf’ and ‘Growl’, it might be less impacting for them to be missing a member, but for ‘Overdose’ promotions, it would’ve really screwed the members over. Not to mention all the concert choreo and line-ups that would’ve already been prepared. I love Kris too, and I wish he hadn’t felt the need to leave, but it was irresponsible of him to leave his members in the lurch like that. Undoubtedly he was looking out for himself first, which is what he has to do, but over the years of training, you’d think he would’ve considered the dreams of his friends a bit more before abandoning them.

  7. BYGRINI

    June 7, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    first thing: i’m not EXOTICS..BUT I CANT HELP MY DESIRE TO COMMENT..1. i’m very disappointed with other exo’s members. they always said their group is one family..but all of them seem put all the blame on Kris shoulder..none of them state that this word*he have his own reason and whatever his reason is, we know its the best for him*..most of of the remain member give this word.a) i’m disappointed. b) feel betrayed. c) it should not happen.
    now i’m doubt their word in the past when they said *we are one*…
    my friend tell me just now.
    *ITS HARD TO FIND A FRIENDS WHO TOTALLY ACCEPT U AS A REAL FRIEND IN THEIR HEART..CAN YOU SEE THEM?? ALL THIS TIME THEY STATE THAT THEY WILL HAVE EACH OTHERS BACK..BUT WHEN THING HAPPEN, MOST/ALL OF THEM TURN THEIR BACK FROM THEIR FRIEND*
    AND…..here…i lost my word…..i jst look at my friend face…
    *THAT THE FACT DUDE*
    He pats on my shoulder…

  8. GetEm'

    June 7, 2014 at 11:12 am

    SM is really good at making it so that the people under them are controlled. It happened with TVXQ and I’m sorry that Kris didn’t stay longer until he established some ground in the korean variety world first. We’ll never know if the quotes from the people in the company are truly from them or not, since you never know where SM has their hands. I hope that Kris comes out strong. A lot of people that have quit came back; Jay Park, JYJ, and Brian Joo, Hwanie.

  9. lana

    June 7, 2014 at 7:45 am

    What I don’t understand is Kris is always at the back of the dance formations save for a few seconds during his short lines ( with exo being 12 members) I’d understand them saying ‘choreography has been turned upside down’ if like 3-4 member left. I hounestly think they are exaggerating

  10. Kpop

    June 5, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    I want to like this 1000 times
    Surprisingly I never liked Heechul from the start so this amazes me that I’ve made the right choice to not like him and his big mouth…
    Like others say, he is NOT part of Exo so he should really keep his mouth shut
    I’m sure fans are more interested in hearing Kris himself and the other members of Exo and not some random outside who just sadly happens to be under SM
    The worst thing is that he spoke as if he knew everything. So irritating!
    I wish Kris would come out and speak up.. I really do miss him but I want him to chose what’s best for himself <3
    Kris Fighting!!

  11. Ashley

    June 3, 2014 at 5:54 am

    Y’all crack me up. Heechul is pretty well known for his straight up talk regarding SM issues. So why bash him for saying something that people, myself included, haven’t said before. Before people get butthurt it was well know that he would disappear offstage, he even disappeared before Wolf promotions. It was just a matter of time before it happened. I am still shocked people still believe he will come back. Personally I wouldnt want him back in the group after pulling this shit. It was a betrayal to the fans, exo, and sm. Heechul even said Hangengs situation was different. I feel bad for Heechul if anything. Having Hangeng brought back up must be painful for him.

  12. waly1215

    May 31, 2014 at 2:46 am

    Nobody need to ask Heechul this hot heated question at the first place.
    He is not an EXO members, nor someone close with Kris.
    And I am and ELF too. I know exactly what and how is Heechul.
    He’s weirdo. Hahahaha. So keep calm and let’s overdose.

  13. Ikpopx

    May 28, 2014 at 6:39 am

    Rather than saying his Statement is correct,i understand its his opinion which is fair enough.But with the “meaningless” statement,it helps the situation stay more formal rather than saying a negative thing and its not like Kris has left SM yet or wont. I’m not going to assume things just because Kris left just before the concert and what ever else is going around. But i’m going to wait till SM speak out and Kris…. comes out of his hiding hole and also when his lawyer confirms things about the situation.

    I’m not a major EXO fan but this problem is literally up everyones face so its not easy to ignore it. It all comes down to why Kris left which we still don’t know about despite all these harsh rumours going around.

  14. janelle

    May 28, 2014 at 2:25 am

    I think this is ridiculous that heechul or sm concert staff would make a big deal of this. Kris rarely got any parts in songs, he only had 2 seconds total in growl. How is “difficult” to rearrange his parts when he barely had any and at that was in the back a lot because he wasn’t a good dancer. They don’t have to redo everything, they just have to close up his spaces and give his small parts to tao. The only ones that should be upset over this are exo members themselves. They feel betrayed how someone they saw as family just get up and disappear.

  15. PetShawal

    May 27, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    Heechul’s statements are in itself correct. It’s his opinion, let him speak. Kris did leave EXO to themselves during their first concert. And that, I’m not sorry to say, is something you just should not do. Maybe he had a reason? No one knows. He probably did and he should come out with it. He should definitely not play things over with vague and meaningless statements like “everyone is trying their best”. Some truths need to be spoken and yes, everybody probably is trying their best to cope with a sudden change of members, but I for one would like to hear a person’s honest opinion and not something fabricated to obscure and delay the truth.

    To put it bluntly: What Kris did, was hindering to EXO as a group and SM and also not very nice to the fans who paid money for that concert only to find that one member isn’t on stage. Yes, as I said before, he probably has his reasons. I do not know them and until I do know them, I’m going to be a little pissy.

  16. Chané Fraser

    May 27, 2014 at 4:43 am

    I dont know why everyone is blaming Kris he will still always somehow going to be part of the exo family, he is his own person like what the heck dont judge him for his own life descisions. No one here even knows how difficult and stressful fame can be wilt half the fans being two faced disrespectful with no decency towards exo, I dont believe how unnecessarily un thoughtful fans can be. They almost have no freedom and when they do crazy fans attack them scratching and pushing people including the exo members, honestly I am scared for them and if kris didnt want to cope with that then fine, yes it’s sad but im sure all the members still think of him as a brother and they will keep in touch.

  17. Oji

    May 27, 2014 at 2:51 am

    knowing sm’s history with how they treat their groups it’s no surprise a member would leave. suju experienced it, dbsk, and now exo. kris’ leaving won’t slow down sm one bit, but i would take any tidbits of information spread by an sm member with a grain of salt… exo members included. withhokd judgment until more details are revealed. when all ur information comes from sm sources its really not fair to anyone.

  18. ji young

    May 26, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    I HOPE THAT NOT BE TRUE.I THINK THAT KRIS WAS NOT LIKE THIS.

    I THINK THAT KRIS WAS THE BEST MEMBER OF exo SO I SO SAD AND ANGRY OF sm

  19. dsfsdf

    May 26, 2014 at 10:58 am

    I agree. Heechul should just leave Kris and EXO alone this time. He doesn’t need to get all over and put negative things about him. “Everyone is trying their best” is the best for a veteran like him. He speaks as if it was Kris’s intention.

  20. sfsdfd

    May 26, 2014 at 10:56 am

    I think Heechul shouldn’t involve himself in this case. It’s like he HATES Kris. Heechul, pls just leave EXO alone for this once -_-

  21. Aneeka

    May 26, 2014 at 10:49 am

    Heechul is just ignorant. Kris is not betraying fans. DESPITE What he thinks fans completely understand. At first all I heard was that Kris left and didn’t show for the concert I was angry I thought he was irresponsible then I heard about his health problem. Which made me believe that this wasn’t just random. Kris probably planned to leave way before. And I actually hope he wins this lawsuit. And Heechul said it was because of money you know What Hercules I dislike you and anyone else that tries to put Ktoday down.

  22. HyoSung

    May 26, 2014 at 3:19 am

    I don’t think Heechul should talk, jusy because is a pretty face from SM…

    Kris has his own problems, health and personal problems that Exotics know… or should know…
    It’s not logical that SM can’t treat him or them like a real human being…. just because de money…
    I love EXO, SUJU, SHINee… but because I love them I respect them as humans being and I want them to be happy and healthy

    It’s not real to have them like machines, having Kris and Kai unhealthy visiting hospitals before the concert…

    The common sense comes with their boss lettin them to recover, be happy and healty… not treating them like money

    Maybe it’s my culture, or my way to see the life… but I prefer not have an EXO concert if that means they will be resting and recovery if their unhealty.. and wait for the concert… that will be better

    And if you really think or the other fans think its better a concert than their health, I really hope u can think for them as real persons… boys who are trying to do their best even if their sick.. not just an idol machine..
    but yeah Heechul’s oppinion is sooo real..

  23. meyreena

    May 26, 2014 at 2:50 am

    Actually, rather than reading the article, it’s better for u to watch the video. Sometimes, the media made everything biased.

  24. .

    May 25, 2014 at 11:43 pm

    I’m so tired of having to hear Heechul running his mouth.

  25. Ikpopx

    May 25, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    To be honest,Heechul’s opinions are seriously irrelevant. Whether he knows whats really going on or not,He shouldn’t really say negative things. This just gives people false hopes and as a SM artist he would obviously agree.But Kris was or is still part of SM and he should be saying things like “Everyone is trying their best”. It just makes Kris look like what he did had no reason and Kris is the only one in the wrong.

    Every story has two sides.

  26. supportU

    May 25, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    I feel sorry for Korean idols.. they willing to work like a slave and that is their choice. Kris should have his own choice.

  27. supportU

    May 25, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    Or Heechul wants publicity for himself, getting into a spotlight perhaps.

  28. E.J'sBlackHole

    May 25, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    I Believe Kris had his own reason. He isn’t such irresponsible guy though. EXO members just didn’t know it. we didn’t know it either

  29. 1415

    May 25, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    Reading this article and the articles from other about the same show and the question and answers. I realize this article tried to make it seem like Heechul want to blame Kris for what he did and thats wrong for both.

  30. Guest123

    May 25, 2014 at 6:29 am

    I love Heechul. Leave it to him to talk about this with some real logic and common sense.

  31. mei

    May 24, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    this was not translated properly. Heechul never said that Kris sometimes didn’t show up for work. Don’t make things up to get views. When things like this happen, I start to wonder if all the translations on this site are fabricated.

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